Town Hall 8.5 and 9.5 Guide

These days, we can hear a lots people talking about Town Hall 8.5 and 9.5. So what exactly they are? I am gonna tell you all about them in this Clash of Clans Guide!

Basically, the way Town Hall 9.5 works is the same as TH 8.5 so I will just talk about the TH 8.5 in this guide.

Town Hall 8.5 in Clash of Clans

What are Town Hall 8.5 and 9.5?

Basically, Town Hall 8.5 is a Town Hall 9 which doesn’t have any Town Hall 9 defensive buildings and troops.

Don’t buy any new defense (Archer Tower, Air Defense,  Tesla, Wizard Tower) and don’t upgrade your Walls to level 10. You can upgrade all your current TH8 defensive buildings, Troops, Army Camps, Spell Factory, Clan Castle, Laboratory and Archer Queen to their max level at Town Hall 9. Don’t upgrade walls to their maxed level or they will affect a lot to this strategy.

You should work on your troops before working on your defenses.

Advice for Town Hall 8.5 and 9.5

  • If you want to build a TH 8.5, level 8 walls are enough and they should be level 9 If you want to build a TH 9.5.
  • You also should not upgrade your Dark Barrack because it will unlock new troops, which can increase the weight of your base.
  • If a rushed Town Hall 9 has 2 maxed X-Bows, it can outrank most maxed Town Hall 8s. Especially as a decent TH10, no matter how the rest of your village is, with maxed Inferno Towers, you can easily win the battle against TH9 players. These two defensive buildings have the highest scores at match making.

As a Town Hall x.5, your main priority should be getting your Archer Queen and Barbarian King to high level as quick as possible. Also, at this time, the most popular attacks at Town Hall 9 and 10 are evolving around Golems, Hog Rider and Valkyrie so you will want to focus on upgrading them too.

Upgrading order?

You will want to focus on your troops first, before working on your buildings. As long as you can 3 star your own base, you are ready for Clan Wars! Please take a look at War Focused Upgrade Priority for more details! It’s an in-depth guide that must be read.

For example, this is a decent TH9.5:

Town Hall 9.5 in Clash of Clans

What is the benefit of being a Town Hall 8.5 or 9.5?

By being a Town Hall 8.5, your score (weight) at Clan War Matchmaking is the same as when you were at Town Hall 8 because the number of your defensive buildings doesn’t change. Your rank in Clan Wars now should be the same as when you were at TH 8 but the advantage here is that you can easily bully all TH8 bases with the new TH9 troops, also, the TH9 players of the enemy Clan will have to attack you while their TH8s can’t. You can save a lot of stars for your Clan. So Rushed Town Hall is not always bad, right? Imagine, If your Clan has 10 TH 8.5 villages in Clan War, you can win the war every time LOL.

You should also read this guide to know how we can weigh our bases exactly. Then you will know how to upgrade your defenses as well as troops properly.

This method has been confirmed by thousands players and I strongly agree with them. It works well with lower Town Hall levels such as TH 7 or TH 6 but they aren’t mentioned too much because it is just not worth it at all for being a TH7.5 as the opponent TH7 players still can 3 star your base with Dragon attacks.

Okay I hope you have enjoyed this guide. Don’t hesitate to comment If you need any help guys! You rock!

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  • Jason Wang

    Hi Will, I’m being a th9 in just a couple of days and still wondering if i should upgrate the spell factory cause the unlock of freezing spell is weighted 1000 according to the ‘weight you base’ post.THanks a lot for your guide.

    • Will Potter

      Don’t worry mate. Just upgrade it!

  • Aung

    i bulid all new defence expect xbow including walls.i am still th 8.5 or i become 9?

    • Will Potter

      You are TH 8.75 right now. But I think you should buy the X-Bows.

      • Aung

        TH 8.75 is also enjoyable.Not facing weaker opponents like TH8.5 and Hard like TH9 but acceptable and challenging. 🙂

        • Will Potter

          xD

  • Chris

    Do you recommend TH7.5 now? I have 4 Maxed TH7 Villages and the reason why I don’t upgrade TH is that I use them only for War. But previous update gave 3rd AD for TH7 and I don’t think it’s still very easy to use all dragon attacks. Being TH7.5 can give us benefits, I guess. 🙂

    • Will Potter

      I never recommend doing Town Hall 7.5 since other TH7 players still can 3 star your base with not much hard.

  • Harelhaim

    Hello,
    I did exectly what this guide said but i am still matched against th9 but it dosent matter because they arepreety rushed so i can 3 star them but you need to know how to attack.
    I suggest you to use goho: 18 wiz a golem in your cc 28 hoge riders 4 wall brakers 3 heal spell and 1 rage spell, i like to use a poison spell in the dark spell fectory and in the cc to kill the clan castle troops an archer quinn (mine is level 5) and a BK.
    I been in 9 wars so far and i 3 stared 16 from my attacks and try to make other people in your clan to be a th8.5 its veryyyyy helpful in wars.

    • Tiaso

      Hey, just wondering, what did you build after reaching th9? can show screenshot of your base? =D

      • Harelhaim

        this is my base

      • Harelhaim

        Right now we are at war and i am against a very rushed th10

        • Will Potter

          Cool! Good luck!

    • Will Potter

      Hello Harel,
      It’s not because of you. It’s because of your Clan members since the War is based on the total weight of both team. To give this strategy the most effective, please make sure that you Clan doesn’t have any badly rushed players.
      Also, thank you very much for sharing the strategy man. I really appreciate iti!

      • Harelhaim

        we dont have rushed bases in the clan most of our guys in war are th8 almost maxed so the matchmaking is higher but i can still 3 star them.
        lest war i was metched againt a rushed th10 but he had and inferno tower and 3 xbows. so i 1 stared him

        • kay

          I’ve been matched against a base like that I don’t think its unusual

  • Daniel Russel Sacdalan

    Hi chief, im a nearly maxed th8 except for walls, de spells, minions and valks. 4days before i finish upgrading golems to lvl 2, my question is , is it okay to upgrade my defenses to max if im 8.5 but wont buy any new defenses? does upgrading it will make my weight heavier or it will affect my weight if i will buy any new defenses? And im wondering if its still worth it to do th 8.5 considering the next update will focus on clan war weights and match making? Im a huge fan of your blog very informative, any information regarding my questions will be much appreciated. Thanks a lot! Clash on!

    • Will Potter

      Hi Daniel,
      Of course! You can upgrade them man! Don’t worry~

  • Norwun Lee

    Hello, with the next update mentioned here, what bearing will it have on the TH8.5/9.5 strategy?
    http://forum.supercell.net/showthread.php/1046176-From-the-Dev-s-Desk-Clan-Wars-Matchmaking?p=6772463&viewfull=1#post6772463

    • Will Potter

      Everything will be okay. Don’t worry mate. Just don’t buy any new defense and troop.

  • Saira Cruz

    Hi Will. I just want to ask i have 4 LVL10 wall, 196 LVL9 and 50 LVL8 wall. do you think it will affect if im going to 9.5? Thanks

    • Will Potter

      Hello Saira,
      Just don’t upgrade any other wall!

  • Sudhanv Apte

    Yeah a maxed th8 can mass hog or gowipe a th8.5. it doesnt make sense.

    • rockz3r

      trust me , they cant..

  • edit_check

    Hi, Will Potter.

    What you think about:

    TH10
    250 walk to level 8
    defense quantity to all of TH8 (without “new” defense for th9 (not X-bow, etc))
    defense level max to TH9
    without with and lava

    will work like TH 8.75 – 9.25 ? XD

    With new research for TH10

    and what about the farming on th10 ?? is hard ?

    • Will Potter

      This may work pretty well If your Clan doesn’t have any badly rushed player :D, for sure!
      Farming at Town Hall 10 is much harder than TH9. You rarely can find a good TH9 to raid for sure.

  • michael

    Is there a link to the individual war weight of buildings, defenses, troops, etc. I can’t seem to find it anywhere

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  • rockz3r

    Hello Will ,Hope u remember me!
    I have been following your guide for quiet sometime now , and now my giants are lvl 6 , max hogs and loons lvl 6 (in lab) queen lvl 8 and bk still 5…
    2 cannons lvl 11 , 2 Ads lvl 7
    But , now I am getting the Witches.
    Is it fine now? Since my mirrors are mainly new TH9s right now.
    And can u say about this page? http://forum.supercell.net/showthread.php/970751-War-Weight-Changes-for-Clash-on-TH11-update-December-2015-changes .. it says that unlocking witches does not increase war weight..

    • Will Potter

      Hi mate!
      Of course I remember your username, it’s a bit unique lol.
      Truly I don’t trust the link you gave. I have been using Town Hall 8.5 for years. The Witch affects your weight a lot, as you can see at here: http://cocland.com/tricks-and-tips/how-to-weigh-your-base-in-clan-wars

      • guillotes07

        hey, just an update: i went th 8.5 a bit different: added AD+tesla+sweeper, ugraded AD + tesla to lvl7, more than half walls to legos (didn’t add new 25 pcs), have max loons, HAD max hogs (LOL ;( ), gollem 4, dogs 2, and pretty much every lab upgrade for war purposes done, BK/AQ 10/10, about to upgrade queen to 11, and I’m still being being matched up against super rushed th9 (we are only two th 8.5, we rank 4th and 5th in current wars) and my mate gets maxed th8s….working like a charm, I’m 3 starring their N°1 sometimes and everyone from 2 to the last one….im going for th 8.75 now, slowly adding new def, but AFTER i max old ones to th9 lvls

        • rockz3r

          did u unlock witches or lava m8?

          • guillotes07

            yes, both rockz3r, and upgraded both to lvl 2, and yesterday we searched for war (20vs20) and again, we are matched against super rushed th9, really low lvl troops, my mirror has 2 xbows lvl 2, 4 mortars th9 lvl, the rest is worse than a th8 max, even his troops.

            im upgrading cannons rite now to th9 lvl. after that ima upgrade the AT, then WT and mortars to finish. lastly ill add up the rest def in the same order (AT then WT) and only when im th9 max (heroes about 15/15, or 20 with luck) ima add xbows. just for the record 🙂

            note: yesterday we convinced another player that reached th9 to go for 8.5 route BEFORE the war, he started normally and he has a th8 mid as a mirror in war now. I repeat, its working like a charm, at least for the past 10 wars or so. we war constantly, not a day idle.

          • rockz3r

            that gave me relief man , now after this new update , war time reduction , GoHo is not working anymore.. So , i guess i gotta start doing lavaloons or gowiwis..

          • rockz3r

            i might join ur clan someday… more the .5s , better it is… my queen would b lvl 10 by next week.. hogs are max

          • guillotes07

            didn’t see this, ofc my friend!

        • Hanson Eigilson

          you guys looking for members?

          • guillotes07

            yo bro, dunno haha I just play…I don’t even know to share or find our clan xD

          • Hanson Eigilson

            haha no worries i got a good one by now.
            BK/AQ 12/7
            45K warweight, matched against midlevel or lower th8’s and they have NO chance LOL

  • firdaus jimirin

    hi Ash,for th8.5 can i upgrade archer tower and Canon to level 11 ?. Mortar , wizard tower ,hidden tesla to level 7?. also bomb and skeleton?.after latest update?..

    thanks,bcoz im confuse

  • firdaus jimirin

    hi Ash

    after reading so many article bout th8.5,now im confuse. can or cannot i upgrade archer tower,wizard tower,Canon etc to th9 level?.

    thanks in advance

    • Tiaso

      Hey just helping out. You can upgrade every existing buildings you had at th8.5 except for dark barracks. You can build new traps, AQ and storages ONLY, not walls.

      • firdaus jimirin

        thanks fren,means alot.

    • Will Potter

      Hello mate,
      You can upgrade them to Town Hall 9 levels, for sure!

  • kay

    so building the extra storages doesnt affect the 8.5 weight?

    • Tiaso

      Yes,it doesn’t affect, only defensive and offensive building will be affecting the weight.

  • Kepala

    hi, since the last update, a few days ago, they’ve increased the weight of defensive buildings.. so is it still wise to upgrade them?
    my clanmate used to be 1 place below me, now, after the update, he’s 1 place above me

    • Will Potter

      Hmmm my Town Hall 9.5 Clan is still working very well. I will take a closer look at this and gonna update as soon as possible!

      • Kepala

        i’ll be waiting for that update then

      • ViMzZy StYLeR

        Waiting in for your thoughts Will.

  • Tiaso

    Will, I tried 3 wars in TH8.5, it wasn’t favourable to us at all. I am facing mirror with 2 xbow which is basically hard for me to 3*. There is one clan member which used to be higher ranking than me at TH8 because her defenses were all max, after i got to TH8.5, now my raking is higher than her even though my defenses are much lower.

    One of my clan mate who is TH9.5 also increase ranking above all the TH9 which got better defenses compared to him.

    • Will Potter

      I will update more about this and tell you as soon as possible mate. I don’t know but my TH9.5 clan is still working fine. It always get matched with Town Hall 8 Clans.

    • guillotes07

      the thing is not only about your mirror, that is just a matter of maths….someone (or more than 1) you’re putting in clan wars is making the match up fail cause is weighting too much….a lot of my mirrors have xbows, but that’s not an issue at all, cause somewhere my mirrors are lacking cause of that, they have poor def, and/or poor kings, poor troops, if you compare with my troops im always same or better than their N°1 player and i’m ranked 4 o 5.

      • Will Potter

        This is very true. Thank you mate!

        • guillotes07

          your welcome mate! and am i the only one (me and a lot of players in my clan) having trouble with my heroes? they are not targeting properly, they dodge/avoid estructures/def right in front of them, queen not targeting castle def (dragon, i.e.) etc, and that ruins some of my attacks…is there some link to read from? thx in advance

          • Will Potter

            Believe me buddy. No one can understand the AI in game 🙁

  • jeff de leon

    Hi will. I follow your thread a month ago and im here to say some feedback. I think this guide is pretty spot on. I dont know for the others but in my clan we are matched with a th9s rushed every single time. We have 1 max th9 and 2 th 9 without xbow and my village th 8.5 that i follow the guide of yours. Until now we dont feel the changes in war match making. Honestly we have 25 war win streak because of this. Thanks for this wonderfull guide. More power.
    And sorry for my english.

  • Binh

    Will I am about to go up to 9.5 and is it still the same format and math after the March 2016 update? I am maxing out all troop for townhall 9 and now working on level 10 walls.

    • Will Potter

      Everything is working fine so far but I don’t recommend you upgrade your walls to level 10!

      • Binh

        I am townhall 9 and max out everything and you are saying I shouldnt upgrade my current wall to level 10? The current wall allow to upgrade to level 10.

        Let me know because I am making a mistake on 8.5 where I got all new 25 piece of wall so I wont make the same mistake again.

        Let me know about the current wall from townhall 9 which I have max out at level 9 and about 5 piece on level 10.

        • Will Potter

          Yes, I know that. But 250 level 10 walls = a lot of weight.

          • Binh

            Thanks Will, I will follow guide as I have only 2 piece of wall level 10 now and will hold off on upgrading the rest. I am sitting at max gold and elixir and dont know what to do. Just upgrade to townhall 10 and should be ready in 10 days.
            My plan is to upgrade lab, spell factory and camp. WIll provide feed back once I got some result from war.

          • Will Potter

            Thank you very much Binh. Good luck further!

          • Binh

            Will just start the war and i am the 2nd townhall 10 in my clans and mapping against townhall 9.
            So far these are my current 9.5
            4 Wall level 10 – the rest are level9.
            current upgrade – 2 camp, lab, spell factory, and 1 xbow to level4.

            My next question is if I have 2 xbow at level4 would both increase in war? or should I upgrade tesla instead?

          • Will Potter

            Hello mate,
            That’s great! Congrats man!
            I recommend you work on your other defensive buildings and your troops first!

          • Binh

            Just kick off another war and once again I am mapping against another TH9. My TH8.5 is mapping against another TH8.
            Back to the question on the wall upgrade, should I upgrade my current wall to level10 or do I keep the wall at level9

          • Will Potter

            Hello Binh,
            Glad to hear that mate! I don’t recommend upgrading your walls at at all!

          • Binh

            Let me give you some update after 5 war and thus far I am matching up agaisnt 4 TH9. The last war was so odd i dont know what to think. The opponent have one 9.5 base and he got the extra 25 piece of wall, plus cannon/archer towers plus, DE driller, and he is 2 spot below his clans member where they are TH9.

            This make me thing, should I get the cannon and archer tower too? or should I wait for another war matchup and figure out because the last one is so odd.

            Let me know what do you think.

          • Will Potter

            Nah just don’t do that buddy! Things will mess up! Trust me xD!

  • anoop

    Now my th is 8.5…. if I buy 4 th exilr storage vil affect my th 8.5 ? I upgraded my th befor I maxout th 8. I just want 4 th exilr storage for upgrade drg. Pls help me….

    • Will Potter

      Hello mate,
      Don’t worry, buying new Storages and Collectors won’t affect your weight at all!

      • anoop

        Thanks bro…. 🙂

  • Palladin Warior

    How about traps?Can It effect the weight?

    • Will Potter

      No, traps don’t affect your weight. Don’t worry man!

  • Mike

    So what I must NOT DO is build new defensive buildings. Is that it? Thanks

    • Will Potter

      Yes, that’s it buddy!

  • Makda

    Following the latest update, TH8.5 does not seem to work. I’m a TH8.5 strictly according to this guide, but from last 6~7 wars (following the latest war matchmaking), I’m being matched against semi-seasoned TH9 with X-bows, and they can easily 2* me to 99% if not 100% (because of my buildings placement) and I stagger to 60~80% them due to their X-bows. So now I’m going to abandon this guide and buy myself new defences and walls starting from X-Bows. Sorry to say but the latest war matchmaking killed this .5 concept.

    • Will Potter

      Hello Makda, what is your position in your Clan now? How about the guy who is ranking higher than you?

      • Makda

        :'( I’m positioned at either #3 or #4 (last in TH9s). The ones above me have all unlocked X-bows, new defenses and walls, with majority of old defenses still at TH8 level. Do you think their overweight in matchmaking is making me get the heat?

        • Will Potter

          Yes, of course. Clan War is based on the total weight of your Clan buddy. Make sure there isn’t any bad rushed base in your Clan while searching War!

          • Makda

            Thank god I listened to you and waited instead of abandoning this guide! We removed our max TH9 from war (non rushed) and got easier opponent. Maybe he was overweighting whole of the clan, as the ones below him are comparatively new TH9s (but with new defences).

          • Will Potter

            Glad to hear that Makda! Good luck with your next Wars!

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  • Binh

    Hello everyone I am redoing TH8.5 on my 2nd account as I have screw up the first one. I am upgrading one camp, lab, spell factory and castle. Anyone have any recommendation on what to upgrade the current defense from 8 to 8.5? Tesla? Cannon, or Wiz tower, Mortar? I am leaning toward tesla but not sure if that is the right approach.

    • guillotes07

      yo mate, I did: traps+teslas > ADs > ATs > cannons > WTs > mortars

      • Binh

        you mean the 2 extra bomb, and 2 seeking air mine? Thanks for the info, I will go with the tesla then AD.

        • guillotes07

          yeah, GBs are vital to stopping gohos…and not only air seeking mines (black ones) the red ones too, they help a lot against loons cause its splash damage. ur welcome mate!

    • Will Potter

      Hello Binh! I think you may want to work on Tesla and Wizard Tower first xD

  • WetCameljoe

    Hey, If i youtube th8,5 i only see movies with 2 xbows exc. but you tell us not to buy enything new from the new defense. help me out plz

    • Will Potter

      Just trust me man! This is definitely the best TH8.5 guide you can find!

  • Parth

    If upgrading troops increases weight then which elixir troops can we max out in th 8.5?

    • Will Potter

      You will not want to unlock Witch and Lava Hound buddy, especially when Valkyrie is really strong right now!

      • Makda

        Hi Will!
        I have unlocked witch as there was too much elixir lying around, but I am still matched against a TH8, and I’m the lowest TH9 in war ranking. I’ll tell more as I will war more, but for now unlocking witch has not added weight.

        • Will Potter

          Just don’t upgrade her or get the Lava Hound buddy. Good luck!

  • Edgar

    Hello.
    If doing a 6.5 would getting the 4th camp have an increase in weight??

    • Will Potter

      Hello!
      The Army Camp doesn’t increase the weight of your base. Don’t worry mate!

      • Edgar

        Thanks Will.
        As for the other stuff DE drill, storage and BK are they still okay?
        what counts as an additional building?
        if staying as 6.5 and be rated as TH6 in Clan Wars.
        There’s also the 4th barrack.
        thanks in advance

        • Will Potter

          Hello mate!
          Yes, they are all fine! Just don’t buy new building, don’t lock new troops and you will be fine!

  • Pragat Jhawar

    Hello,
    As the latest update stated..Defensive progress will be playing a much bigger role in Clan Wars matchmaking after the update.& so on. So in short Defense>Offense.
    So I just wanna know exact weightage of every buildings,troops,heroes,walls & their levels. with the latest update of coc.
    Thank You.

  • Parth

    Hey Will,what is the weight of clan castle and does it affect the clan war matchmaking?

    • Will Potter

      Hello mate,
      Clan Castle doesn’t affect your base weight :D.

  • hvilppu DJV

    Hello, Can I upgrade all my AD:s (3 pieces all lvl 6) and Teslas (3 pieces all lvl 6) to lvl 9 (as th 9) and still get TH 8 as opponent in war?

    • Binh

      Hi, I am currently doing the 8.5 and 9.5 and as long as you are not purchasing anything net new you are good. I am currently upgrading cannon, wiz tower, archers towers and hidden tesla and still matchup agaisnt townhall8

    • Will Potter

      yes, of course! You absolutely can so that buddy!

  • hvilppu DJV

    Has anybody tried 4th air defence after may update for th 8.5 (With no new walls & no other new buildings) still get th8 as opponen in CW?

    • Will Potter

      Don’t do that buddy! Don’t buy any new defense!

  • Joe Unitedfan

    hello, now i am at th8.5 and can you give an advice, first defence that should i am upgrade?

  • hvilppu DJV

    Followed all instructions. All I did after th9 was: upgraded teslas to lvl 7, upgraded hogs to lvl 5 (No new wall, no walls over lvl 8, no lvl 9 dark troops). First opponent I got CW mirror was with: 6x arher tower 9, 5x cannon lvl 11, 2x xbow!, 4xad lvl 6, 4x mage tower lvl 6, 4 teslas lvl 7, 2 x blower.. did I something wrong or why this is possible? Or was it bad luck? I thought I should get th 8 as opponen .. now I got powerful th9.

    • Will Potter

      Hello mate,
      It is not just only because of you. It is also based on the total weight of your Clan!

      • hvilppu DJV

        Ok. I understood it wrong then.

  • hvilppu DJV

    How does it affect if I go from 8.5 th and upgrade town hall to 10.. then traps & all but walls, new troops and new defences? So town with 8 defence, troops and walls

    • Will Potter

      This strategy doesn’t work well at this time. I don’t recommend using it buddy!

      • hvilppu DJV

        Have you idea what cause “weight jump” Is it town hall? Camp upgrade? Defense upgrade? Or all of em?

      • hvilppu DJV

        Also more questions:
        If I upgrade from 8.5th town hall to 10 and do all “0.5 stuff” (only camps, defence upgrades, storages and collectors). I will be counted over 8.5.. but will I be counted: Over or under th9 with x-bows? Or just with th10. So what kind stuff I will get as mirror?

        • Will Potter

          You will probably face Town Hall 9. That’s why I don’t recommend doing that!

  • Johnny Chau

    For th8.5, does getting the extra big bombs, air mines, and springs add weight to the war matching as well? Or is it only the buildings and walls?

    • Will Potter

      You can buy all traps buddy! Just don’t buy any new defensive building or wall!

  • Johnny Chau

    For th8.5, does getting the extra big bombs, air mines, and springs add weight to the war matching as well? Or is it only the buildings and walls?

  • Josh Falle

    i consider each tower upgrade as +1 (including new towers). mortars 1.5. adding an extra cannon for example adds+10 at rank 10, so its easier to spread that “wieght” to prexisting towers rather then new ones. generally the higher you upgrade anything it hits thresholds ( like wiz lvl5, or loons 5, or archer 10 or 11) where you get better bang for buck, so to speak. this further supports rushing imo.

    also, Air defense buildings, traps,queen, tesla and air sweepers all have low weight( like av 10-50 per level rather then 400-600).

    currently my base has all buildings EXCEPT archer, cannon, mortar and xboxs, with lvl 7 walls ( and maybe 12 lvl 6 left).

    the last 15 wars or so ive been mirrored to th8 about 80% of the time. the bigger the war, the more likely im vs a th8.
    I am frequntly able to attack higher then my lvl, able to get 2 stars always, 3 stars like 65% of the time ( i generally have a good idea of who i can and cant get).

    Your attack strength is boosted tremendoulsy during war. the extra 20 places,access to lava or golem in the cc and 9 spell slots… thats not including access to higher troop levels.

    My main war attack is 4 lightning+2 quake ( the two AD standard, or if they cluster too many wizs/archer/sweeper together)
    with lava in the cc
    5-7 drag(the frontline, and cc killer)
    0/2/3 healer (if using a queen walk)
    3-10 minion, 3-10 archers, 1hog ( lure and cleanup and dps support)
    0-1 pekka(queen walk hybrid attack, special bases only)
    rest loons (usually 6-11)

    pretty much recks 90% th8s, 80% th8.5 and weak-medium th9s

    conclusion? WORTH RUSHING (with a gameplan though)

    • Will Potter

      Thank you very very much buddy! for sharing this xD

  • hrbrt7

    Hey Will, thanks for the guide. It really works..Just one question though. Where will I spend the gold after upgrading all defenses? I’m left with two, wiztower and archertower.

    • Will Potter

      Glad to hear that it works for you man!
      Once you have upgraded all your defenses, just don’t care about Gold! Ignore it buddy!

  • Pragat Jhawar

    Hey mate, my TH (other account) is gonna get upgraded to 9 .Thinking to build .5 or say .75 ..Xbows have the highest weightage so I won’t build that ..

    1.If I build & upgrade defenses & traps to max level is it fine?
    2.Also,what about Troops & Walls ,how much weightage they has ? & same question upgrading those to max level,fine?
    3.Can you provide farming & war base for the same..[as per the latest update]
    4.Which league should I be in the inital phase of th9 & in mid th9?

    Thank You in advance buddy!

    • Will Potter

      Hello Pragat,

      1. Yes, it’s fine.
      2. Don’t get new troop! You can get new traps. You can upgrade traps and troops!
      3. Sure
      4. Gold league or Master would be nice!

      • Pragat Jhawar

        Ok So I’l do build new buildings & upgrade all defenses/traps/walls/heroes etc everthing except 2 xbows! I hope it reduces my war weight heavily compared to putting that 2 xbows..fine?
        Also buddy send me a good farming base as per latest update 🙂
        Thank You.

        • Will Potter

          All bases I posted are up-to-date buddy! You can give them a try!
          Also, If you want to be a Town Hall 8.5, please don’t buy any new building!

          • Pragat Jhawar

            Link Bro ..

  • ThorZeus

    hi will, currently i’m already finished upgrade my existing th 8 defense to th 9 defense level, and max all the trap, and added new 25 wall to th 8 level, what defense should i build first? to dump my gold

    • Will Potter

      Don’t buy any new defense If you want to stay at Town Hall 8.5. Otherwise, you can start from Archer Tower ~> Tesla ~> Air Defense…

  • hvilppu DJV

    Hello on 8.5 can I upgrade all my walls (225) to lvl 9 or should they be 8?

    • Will Potter

      You can upgrade all current walls. Just don’t buy any new wall buddy!

  • Kepala

    hey, if I put in any amount of walls at any level in the calculator, the weight remains ‘0’. what’s up with that? was their wight removed with the last update? or is the calculator not working well?
    I have all my (250) walls at level 9, defense at th8 level and don’t know what to next.
    Upgrade my ADs & teslas and move on to th10? keep them the way they are and let my gold be stolen? upgrade (some) walls to level 10 and then move on to th10?

    • Will Potter

      Hmm I will check this out. Thanks for sharing this mate!
      If everything is upgraded, just ignore your Gold buddy! You don’t need it anymore!
      Farming or Clan Wars is more important? You should answer this question!

      • Kepala

        I have to farm to level up my heroes. And I get lots of CW-loot so I think it would be a waste to just let it be stolen..
        My defense is at TH8 level, walls at level 9. So not everything is upgraded, that’s why I’m wondering what to upgrade.

        • Will Potter

          You need to ignore it If you want to stay at Town Hall 8.5. We need to deal with this buddy!

          • Kepala

            I don’t get it, I thought it was okay to level up the old defenses to TH9 level? Or is it because I already upgraded my walls?

          • Will Potter

            Yea, I scare after upgrading your defenses, things will mess up. Anyway just give it a try If you want man!

          • Kepala

            hmm okay, thanks.

  • Binh

    Question on .5 – if you are maxing out all of the current defense and what is the NET new defense that carry the least weight in war? I am at 8.5 and current wall are at level 9, max out all current defense.

    The past 3 war I have been matching up against townhall9 with xbow so i am wondering if I need to move to .75 build new defense but the (2) xbow.

    What is the recommendation. Thanks.

    • Will Potter

      Hey Binh,
      The Clan War depends on your Clan total weight, not only your weight. If you are doing well with Town Hall 8.5, just keep doing it. Otherwise, moving to TH8.75 is not a bad move at all!

      • Binh

        Will, I will do that and report back here on the next several war. I have 3 AD to upgrade and 3 Archer tower to upgrade before maxing out my defense then I will get the net new defense and wall. All walls are at level 9 and working on a few level 10.

        The other 9.5 account have a better successful rate during war and everything is being upgrade with no net new walls/defense.

        • Will Potter

          Thank you a lot and good luck further man!

  • ViMzZy StYLeR

    Hello Will,

    Am a close to becoming a TH 8.5 , I was wondering if it was okay to upgrade my walls. Currently they are all lvl8 walls. If so howmuch(lvl9&lvl10) should I upgrade because i plan on becoming 9.5 in the future.

    • Binh

      Hi, one of my account is at 8.5 now and I have walls at level9 and starting the upgrade to level 10 but havent purchase any net new wall or defense. so far the war matchup is mix because sometime I am matching agaisnt rush townhall 9 with x-bow level1. hope that help.

      • Will Potter

        Thanks for sharing this my friend!

        • Binh

          Will, the past 2-3 war i am matching up with other townhall 9 with xbow.

          What is being consider 8.75? All new defense with no xbow? I am 2 mortar away from maxing out all defense and 75-80% max offense upgrade.

          • Will Potter

            Is there any badly rushed village in your Clan mate? I strongly believe that TH8.75 is working very well at this time!

    • Will Potter

      If you want to be a Town Hall 8.5, I don’t recommend upgrading your walls to level 9 buddy! Please leave them at level 8!

  • Jade Young

    I have already bought new defense but if I dont set them up in war base,
    will my war weight decrease as compared to when I place them in the war
    base?

    • Will Potter

      They are still count buddy! Regardless of you use them in Clan Wars or not!

  • Imusnoxa 3036

    (I’m new th9.5)How about trap?can i upgrade and build like th10?

    • Will Potter

      Hello there,
      Yes, you can absolutely upgrade traps!

  • Iain Roome

    Hi Will
    I’ve recently taken over my brothers rushed th9 account. he has built everything except for the AQ Xbows and 2nd sweeper. the rest of the buildings are just about all th7. do you think th8.5 is worth doing on this account?

    thanks

    • Will Potter

      Yes, I strongly believe you can use this account in Clan Wars buddy!

  • Imusnoxa 3036

    I’m new th9.5..i have question….how about trap?can i upgrade and build more trap like th10

    • Imusnoxa 3036

      Fuck no one reply..stupid page..

      • Will Potter

        Can you just please calm down man.

      • Oupal

        just delete his toxic comments will. trash talk ppl like him only poisoning the community.

    • Will Potter

      You can upgrade traps buddy!

  • Crystal

    Can 8.5 upgrade for baby dragon, skeletons and spring traps?

    • Matt S

      I’m waiting for the answer on the baby drags war weight also. I’ve upgraded my spring traps to lvl2 and my weight didn’t change much.

      • Binh

        I dont know about the baby dragon weight in war but I am currently doing 8.5 and 9.5 and you dont want to upgrade anything to purchase new troop. For example 8.5 dont upgrade the Dark Barrack to get witches. I think this rule will be the same for regular Barrack to unlocked Baby dragon.

        Just my opinion on the 8.5 upgrade.

        • Kepala

          True, however, it becomes (very) useful to be able to use different strategies, like (go)laloon. I’ve unlocked and upgraded the lavahound for that reason, unfortunately giving me the witch too (which I did not upgrade.)
          So I guess my war-weight did increase but now I’m able to 3star a greater variety of (TH9) bases.
          I’m also unlocking (and upgrading) the baby dragon for the sake of CW-defense.

      • Will Potter

        Don’t get the new troop at this time! You can upgrade your traps for sure!

  • Des316

    We need an update to this after the new elixir troop and spring levels update.

    • ViMzZy StYLeR

      Also please provide the new war weight data guide after the new update.

      • Will Potter

        I will do that soon mate!

    • Will Potter

      I will do it for sure!

  • hvilppu DJV

    Need ask once more time: Is it wall amout or level or both that affect on weight? So what lvl my wall should be max in 8.5?

    • Will Potter

      Hello mate,
      At Town Hall 8.5, don’t upgrade your walls to more than level 8!

  • Aaron

    Should i upgrade to TH9? Now

    • Will Potter

      Yes, just do it mate! Town Hall 9 is the paradise!

      • Aaron

        Ok thank you 🙂

  • MML

    Hi. Would it add weight on clan wars if I add an AD (no other additional defense) and an AQ at TH8.5? Thanks!

    • Binh

      Where are you at 8.5? or have you max out all current defense? If so I would start adding net new defense one by one.

      • MML

        Yes, max out everything at TH8 except the walls. I’ll be at TH9 in a few days. I want to know if I can add just the AD and the AQ and still be match against a TH8. I thought adding a new defense adds weight on war? I’m planning to add all other defense last after I upgraded all my troops and spells to a higher level.

        • Kepala

          If you add an AD you will be more like an 8.75 so you’ll probably get matched with a TH9 (probably (kinda) rushed.) You won’t weigh as much as a proper TH9 of course but adding the AD will increase your weight.
          As for the AQ: her weight is close to nothing and she’s most definitely helpful with TH9 attacks.
          Hope this helps.

    • Will Potter

      Just don’t buy any new defensive building and you will be fine my friend!

  • Sahil

    Hey will my question is that if I upgrade my th to 9 , shall I only buy traps or the queen and what about storages also.

    • Sahil

      And after going to th 9 shall I upgrade my barracks nd drk barrack

      • Binh

        I am doing the 8.5 now and you dont want to upgrade your dark barrack to unlocked the Witch.
        This is what I am doing to 8.5.
        Upgrade all current camp, defense and offense.
        I am gong 8.75 now as I am adding 1 new AD, wiz tower, archer tower, hidden tesla and air sweeper. I am staying away from the xbow until everything is max out as xbow weight is a lot more in war.

        • Will Potter

          Thanks for the great share as always Binh!

        • guillotes07

          I’m going th 8,75 now (everything but xbows), almost maxed everything (already all walls lvl9 in case i go for th 9.5), new wizard tower left, then ima wait till kings are 20/20 or more to think about 9.5…kings now 15/15, working pretty good in wars, I’m always mirrored with fellas with xbows lvl 2 or 3, but they just lack everything else, th8 defenses, poor walls, poor troops….so, easy 3 star 🙂

    • MML

      I think getting storages and traps are fine.

    • Will Potter

      Hey mate,
      When you get to Town Hall 9, you can buy Traps, Storages, Collectors and Archer Queen!

  • Binh

    Will, are you going to update the 8.5 and 9.5 with new troop and spell?

  • Cmp247

    Ok so im th8 and have everything maxed out along with 89 walls. Do you think I could still do the 8.5 base?

    • Binh

      why dont you try 8.75 which mean net new defense but no xbow. I am doing that right now to one of my account.

  • Kepala

    I made a no-defense account: no walls, no defense, nothing. Does anyone here have experience with that and have any tips??

    • Will Potter

      They works extremely well but maintaining them is such a pain due to the new shield system :(.

  • David Rustoff

    then my is 8.1 XD.

    • Will Potter

      xD

  • Shakeeb Parwez

    How to 3 star this base if i am a MAX Townhall 7?

    • Will Potter

      You can’t do that!

  • Demotry

    Hello I’m now maxed my base to TH8. So I’m planning to go 8.5 as ur plan. Just I’m buying only building storages and max them. And max all troops .. Without buying any new defense. But I have a question do I max my current defense to TH9 or should I leave all my defense to TH8 only. Please advise me thank you …

    • Demotry

      Still no reply … Will Potter bro … please help me soon I will reach TH9 …

    • Will Potter

      You can upgrade all your defenses to max level buddy! Don’t worry!

  • hvilppu DJV

    How many walls I should have in th8.5 and what level max in walls. Also: How many walls and what lvl max in wall at 9.5?

    • Will Potter

      Just don’t buy any new walls.
      You can upgrade your walls to level 8. Did you read my guide above clearly mate?

  • Abdullah Aziz

    Will my rank in war change if I upgrade traps and bombs….what about Heroes?? And I am a th8 just walls left have Maxed all my defences and Elixer troops..Just Valks and Minions left…Barb King is level 8. Should I go for Town Hall 8.5 at this time??

    • Will Potter

      No, don’t worry mate! Just upgrade them! Don’t worry! Everything will be fine as long as you follow my guide above!

  • Casey

    I have a fresh th9 now and i want a th8.5. I accidently bought a giant bomb. Will that ruin my th8.5? Since it is a new defense

    • Ruel Agno

      nope. it will not affect being a th8.5. when i hit th9 i only bought archer queen, storages and new traps. here’s my base as sample.

    • Will Potter

      Hey Casey!
      Don’t worry buddy! Everything is fine!
      You can buy new traps. Just don’t buy new defensive buildings!

  • Abhishek Sharma

    For th8.5 should i buy new walls available in th9 or not..

    • Whiskey Diet

      The author does not recommend buying the new walls, and to keep your current walls to lvl 8

    • Will Potter

      No, don’t do that buddy!

  • Whiskey Diet

    Anyone know of any war/farming bases with this specific strat?

    • Will Potter

      I haven’t seen any decent Clan War Base for Town Hall 8.5 but you can modify any Town Hall 8 war base!

  • Abdullah Aziz

    Bro I Build a Archer Tower by mistake.. please help me Out. And Secondly will Spell Factory Level affects clan matchmaking??

    • Will Potter

      Just upgrade it to max level and don’t do anything like this before buddy!
      You can upgrade your Spell Factory, don’t worry!

  • Sudhanv Apte

    Hi,
    I am going th9 in a few days… i was wondering if buying my queen would get me matched to a th9. Is it ok if i buy my queen and unlock her ability. Also i have been excited about baby dragon so will it be ok if i unlock it?

    • Will Potter

      It’s totally okay If you buy the Queen buddy! Don’t worry!

  • Anshul Gandhi

    Hi,
    i was a maxed out th8 and recently upgraded to th9.
    I am planning for th8.5 startegy. I have already upgraded all the traps(old + new), new gold and exilir storages, dark exilir drills, army camps, lab ,cc, both spell factory to max th9 level.

    Should i add new air defense, hidden tesla and air sweeper or max out th8 defenses first?
    will the new air defense and hidden tesla have significant effect on war weightage?

    • Will Potter

      Hello,
      Don’t add any new defense If you want to be a Town Hall 8.5. At this time, I strongly recommend working on your troops first!

  • Miss Gulaman

    Hi my base is in between Th8&th7 but my town hall is th9 and I already have lvl4 drag which I can easily 3star newly th9 bases. I’m using my gold on upgrading walls instead.. Does it affect my war weight? My ranking is lower than a max th8. My wall is all lvl7 I am upgrading it on lvl8.

    • sathya

      stop when you reach level 8 walls. (skull walls)

  • Zachary Elliott

    Hello mate! For starters, thank you for taking your time to do this. I came here initially to find out whether walls affected your strength at all, and I got my answer. I continued reading because I really liked your input, and I wanted to get your advice if you are up for it. I have kind of an unusual situation.

    I began my 2nd clash of clans account and built up a small defense before I had the idea to stop building defense and focus mainly on attacking. My current layout is as follows:

  • Shammy

    I’m seeing diffrent reviews on adding the 4th air defense. By only adding the 4th AIr defense and additional traps, will my war weight go up that much?

  • Sudhanv Apte

    Hi,
    I just became a th9 and bought my queen…
    I didnt buy new walls or any defs.i am looking for war and farming bases for th8.5 i actually got a pretty good one but it has more walls. So i was probably hoping you could give me a base which is anti 3 star or something…

  • Storages have no war weight, right? anything else on th9 has no war weight?

  • Sudhanv Apte

    I just became a th9 and i bought no new defs except for air mines and a giant bomb but still i got matched up with another th9 and its my first war as th9

  • Orange

    What about the two new storages at th9, do you get them or not?

  • Pranay Das

    I want to make this base a th8.5. Do I need to upgrade all my walls at th8??https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fff5d6320b48b51baf257bc79f2665da95e14fca61267ae77a27f15401778d76.jpg

  • Dan Dialogo

    Is this still work? The TH 8.5?

  • Sam Ros

    I’m working on my th 9.5 if I upgrade my queen to lvl 40 I will be considered 9 or 10?

    • Will Potter

      It is totally okay. Don’t worry buddy!

  • Darth Vader

    Is TH 9.5 worth still now? I have maxed defenses,all level 10 walls and 29/30 Heroes. Still 10 days for Th 10 so I am wondering shall I put infernos 1st or work on my troops before putting infernos?. Our Clan is very active and we war thrice a week. What shall I do?

    • Binh

      I think 9.5 is still worth it if you are into war as I am 2 more cannon away from all defense at level 13. King/Queen is at 35 and planning to upgrade to max 40/40 then go up to Townhall 11 without Inferno.
      The war matchup is now at 50-50 due to the 3rd x-bow level4.

  • Binh

    Unlocking Miner and Bowler will have any affect on 9.5? Anyone have any recommendation?

    • Koi

      For war, I would do the Bowler first.

  • sathya

    i am updating my townhall to th9 from th8. can i upgrade gaints archers and barbarians to level 6 from level 5. if i do will i get th8 in war all the time? or what.

    • Koi

      Upgrade giants first, helps a lot in farming and then focus on war troops.

      • sathya

        bro thanks for your reply. are u updating all troops to level 6?. can u give ur clan code. i can see ur village.

  • sathya

    can i install new air seeking mine? will it affect the war search.

    • Koi

      You can buy new traps.

  • Titanium

    can i upgrade walls to lv 9? (th 8.5)

  • Rajesh Sharma

    by mistake i upgrade 1 wall to Level 11, my base will count as 9.5 or it will become TH 10?

  • sathya

    i need a th 8.5 hybrid base layout. plz post a image

  • Leo Ralph Villamayor

    How to become a town hall 8.5 village by leoralphv TH 8.5 Clan Leader

    I am writing this guide for those players who want to become a Town Hall 8.5.
    I am the leader of TH 8.5 Clan and I created the clan 09 October 2016 to accommodate all those TH 8.5 players.

    Along our clan’s journey I have noticed a lot of details on how to properly build a TH 8.5 base not only for a single player’s advantage but for the clan as a whole.

    The main purpose of having this build is to have a war advantage which I can say is really effective because of having a war weight as good as of a town hall 8.

    My guide can also be used not only to those who want to have a TH 8.5 base but also 7.5, 6.5 or even 5.5 and so on…

    My base is a max TH 8.5 village for reference you can visit my clan and view leoralphv.

    A town hall 8.5 starts with a max town hall 8. When I say max it includes everything troops, walls, buildings and heroes. Do not rush becoming a town hall 9 without upgrading everything at their max.

    Upon reaching TH 9. The number 1 rule I always tell to my clan is do not buy any new defenses which include defense towers such as archer towers, wizard towers, teslas etc. Also TH 8.5 built are prohibited to buy new walls. The archer queen is not yet advised maybe in the later part of the game. So these are the basic rules of a TH 8.5.

    To sum up numerically:
    1. Upgrade TH 8 to max (buildings and troops).
    2. Upgrade town hall to 9 last and do not buy any defenses (no walls and no new buildings)

    Note: Before having the recent updates in COC air defense, air sweeper and bomb tower are not in the shop for TH 8. So personally it is better not to buy these defenses. MOTTO: Less defenses but upgraded ones are better.

    Next question is what are the step by step guide in upgrading a TH 8.5? Okay I will answer this but this actually depends on the player. For the sake of sharing my experience as the leader of the TH 8.5 clan and having a high clan war stars won and an excellent war log status I will share this guide.

    Mandatory Steps:

    Upgrade Clan Castle to increase war troops space
    Upgrade Laboratory so you can get started on TH9 troops
    Upgrade Army Camps for the additional troops
    Build and Upgrade Traps and bombs (Tesla is not included in the trap)
    Upgrade Spell Factory
    Upgrade all storages and pumps to Max TH9
    Upgrade all Barracks to TH9 Levels
    Buy Archer Queen and upgrade until Level 10.

    After finishing the mandatory steps

    Upgrade Dark Spell Factory to obtain the Haste Spell
    Upgrade troops (You can prioritize dark troops)
    Build all new storage and upgrade them to match your existing TH8 max levels
    After the Archer Queen reaches Level 10. Upgrade the Barb King to Level 15. The strategy here is always upgrade the Barb King first before the Queen,

    What is the order of upgrading the defenses and buildings?

    Clan Castle
    Laboratory
    Spell Factory
    Army Camp
    Archer Towers
    Air Defenses
    Wizard Towers
    Canons
    Mortars
    Teslas
    Barracks
    Dark Spell Factory
    Do not buy walls just upgrade and max

    NOTE: Never buy additional defenses and walls. You can buy gold and mince storage and upgrade all the gold/elixir collectors right after the clan castle or you can do it after everything.

    What is the order of upgrading the troops?
    Also Note that Dark Troops are Prioritized than the Standard Troops, I will just mention the important ones as a war advantage.

    Valkyrie
    Golem
    Hogs
    Archer Queen until Level 10
    Barbarian King until Level 15
    Archer Queen until Level 15
    Max Barbarian King
    Max Archer Queen

    Wizards
    Balloons
    Dragons

    Townhall 7.5

    The same strategy of building max upgrade your th 7 then do not buy anything when you reached TH 8.

    Additional Question:

    What will happen if you already finished everything for a TH 8.5 line up?
    Proceed to upgrading your town hall do not buy anything just upgrade.

    If you have other questions you can visit our clan or ask here in the forum.
    TH 8.5 Clan #LOVGUOJQ
    Leader: Leoralphv #VYGC9GY8
    Facebook Groupchat: https://www.facebook.com/groups/th8.5clan/

    Leoralphv, TH 8.5 Clan Leader

  • Lana

    I am TH 8.5 but want to know if I upgrade barracks to 11 to get baby dragon, will it affect the base?

  • Lana

    I’m TH 8.5 will it affect it if I upgrade barracks to 11 to get baby dragon?

  • Irvan Wijaya

    Hello, can i upgrade barrack, spell fact and d spell fact?

  • Irvan Wijaya

    Hey bro, i alrdy th9… So can i upgrade the dark spell factory for making th 8.5

  • Irvan Wijaya

    Can i upgrade dark spepl factory to lv3?

  • Paul

    Will adding new walls when turning th9 affect the weight status in wars ?

  • Midhun Gopan

    I have a doubt…building new storages does weights war match up at
    th8.5…?

  • Akash Reghu

    I’m a th8 arch tower 9 and 1 wiz tower 5 teslas 4 ads on upg for max hog lvl4 in 4 days pekka 2 giant arch barb and wiz max…..15 walls lvl8 should i go to th9

  • JJ

    My war weight is 76K. Is that still a 9.5 war weight?

  • Sanket Deshmukh

    Can i buy air bombs and a giant bomb only

    • Sanket Deshmukh

      Pls tell me im a th 8.5 can i get air mine & giant bomb